The popularity of the large model industry has not only promoted the development of the AI industry, but also allowed Zhou Hongyi and Fu Sheng, the "enemies", to break the ice and reconcile. A poster exposed online shows that today, 360 founder Zhou Hongyi will have a dialogue about large models with Fu Sheng, chairman and CEO of Cheetah Mobile. The promotional text on the poster is also very interesting: "Fu Sheng x Zhou Hongyi 121 go together" and "Reunite in 20 years."
Fu Sheng himself also retweeted the poster and wrote in the text, "Are you surprised? Are you surprised? The power of AI!" He also joked: "There is nothing among men that a big model cannot solve..."
Regarding large models, what did Zhou Hongyi and Fu Sheng talk about?
The theme of this conference is how to innovate under the AI trend? Fu Sheng believes that from technological carnival to commercial implementation, the large-scale privatization model is king.
In 2023, large AI models will sweep the world and become a technological benchmark. In 2024, large models will mainly focus on application implementation.
Zhou Hongyi said that at the beginning of 2023, when ChatGPT came out, everyone thought that building large models was equivalent to building the atomic bomb, which was the Manhattan Project. But with open source, by the end of 2023, those who might build atomic bombs will find that they are actually making tea eggs.
Zhou Hongyi said that today’s big models must be polarizing. On the one hand, large models of hundreds of billions and trillions will appear; on the other hand, it is also a trend to make large models smaller when applied to specific scenarios.
Fu Sheng said that 2023 is the third scientific miracle year in human history. The underlying paradigm is changing, intelligence and technology are "emerging", and new innovation opportunities are opening.
"2023 will be a very important year in the history of human science and technology. It is a miracle year. The emergence of ChatGPT will enable human beings to explore science and technology to reach a new height, and there will be a new reconstruction of human life at the bottom. If we do not adapt, we will not be able to keep up with this era." Fu Sheng said.
Fu Sheng said. In his opinion, in today's era, every entrepreneur should find a different path, rather than the path that others are already stronger than you.
At the beginning of the dialogue, Zhou Hongyi said that he participated in this dialogue mainly for the following reasons:
The first is that both Fu Sheng and I have changed a lot, and many things have become softer. Zhou Hongyi believes that there is no need to hold on to the past, but to look forward.
The second is to listen to the development of big models with a learning attitude and support entrepreneurs.
Finally, it’s here to attract fans. Zhou Hongyi said with a smile that short videos and live broadcasts are no longer the original rules and models. Now is the era of Internet celebrities. Everyone should learn to be an Internet celebrity, so he also needs to cultivate his own Internet celebrity temperament and seize every opportunity to attract fans.
When talking about the future development path of large models, Zhou Hongyi pointed out that it is necessary to find scenarios for AI, rather than using large models for OpenAI to empower around small incisions and large depths.
"Entrepreneurs should combine small business scenarios and use AI to solve in-depth problems. Supplement the scenarios with AI instead of using AI to find scenarios," Zhou Hongyi said.
Zhou Hongyi also added that long-termism is needed to expand the model. AI is very hot, but don’t be anxious. Some killer applications may appear in 2024, but there may not be particularly big applications. You must take a long-term view.
Fu Sheng believes that it is necessary for young entrepreneurs to enter the market now and build larger models, but they should not do what everyone does and should focus on combinatorial innovation.
From fighting side by side to turning against each other
Fu Sheng was once Zhou Hongyi's most capable general.
In 2003, Fu Sheng joined Zhou Hongyi's 3721 Company and was favored by Zhou Hongyi because of his good record of meeting minutes. It was in this year that 3721 Company was sold to Yahoo after many wars of words and legal proceedings with Baidu. Fu Sheng also joined Yahoo along with Zhou Hongyi.
In 2005, when Baidu went public, Zhou Hongyi left Yahoo and founded Qihoo, and Fu Sheng joined him again. At first, Qihoo's main business was search, and Zhou Hongyi focused on it. However, this business never made much progress. Instead, the "Rogue Buster" (later renamed 360 Security Guard) led by Fu Sheng became popular.
As a result, Zhou Hongyi changed his strategic goals, shifted the company's main business from search to network security, and renamed the company "Qihoo 360". It was also from this time that Zhou Hongyi and Fu Sheng had a bad feeling.
As the main person in charge of the project, Fu Sheng has devoted a lot of effort to 360 Security Guard and is known as the "Father of 360 Security Guard". However, he and Zhou Hongyi had conflicts regarding the development of this business.
Some people say that this is the boss picking fruits. But from the boss's point of view, the fruits produced on his own territory naturally belong to him, and there is no such thing as taking credit from his subordinates. Finally, in October 2008, Fu Sheng resigned and left.
Because Qihoo signed an 18-month non-compete agreement with Fu Sheng, after leaving Qihoo, he entered the venture capital industry and started his own business, but the response was not good. It wasn't until he met his nobleman Lei Jun that Fu Sheng ushered in another spring for his career.
In 2009, Fu Sheng founded Keniu Imaging. In May 2010, Keniu anti-virus software was released. Six months later, Keniu merged with Kingsoft Security led by Lei Jun to form Kingsoft Network, with Fu Sheng as CEO. Immediately afterwards, lawsuits came to the door.
In 2011, Zhou Hongyi's company sued Fu Sheng, detailing three major "crimes": using Qihoo's confidential information to develop Keniu anti-virus software; violating the non-competition agreement and starting a business privately; and poaching former employees. The two parties went to court, and Zhou Hongyi lost the case.
After that, Fu Sheng's career entered a period of acceleration. In March 2014, Kingsoft Network changed its name to Cheetah Mobile, and Fu Sheng succeeded as CEO. On May 8 of the same year, Fu Sheng led the company to be listed on the New York Stock Exchange. In 2016, Fu Sheng got involved in the field of artificial intelligence and established Cheetah Star Company. Two years later, its new robot products were released.
AI large models are a common focus of Fu Sheng and Zhou Hongyi. In June last year, the 360 Intelligent Brain large model was officially released; in September, the 360 Intelligent Brain large model was opened to the public; in December, 360 Intelligent Brain passed the national large model standard compliance test, claiming to be the country's first natively safe large model.
Zhou Hongyi believes that the U.S. industry has "Allin AI" and seeks incremental markets through AI innovation. He is a firm developmentist and calls on more companies to establish "AI faith" and AllinAI to innovate.
Fu Sheng has also mentioned "AllinAI" many times. His Orion Star is a service robot company with AI technology research and development as its core. Last year, it launched the large model application "Juyan" to provide corporate customers with one-stop solutions for large model consulting and AI services. Recently, Cheetah Mobile announced that the company will increase capital in Orion Star through its holdings and wholly-owned subsidiaries, with a total capital increase of approximately 369 million yuan.